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The panel discussed the potential behavioral side effects of GLP-1 drugs, with some panelists expressing concern about 'apathy' reports and the risk of regulatory scrutiny, while others highlighted the drugs' proven benefits and the market's pricing in of massive TAM expansion for obesity treatment.
Risk: The potential for 'apathy' anecdotes to amplify via social media and accelerate FDA/CMS scrutiny on adolescent off-label use, where developing brains may heighten vulnerability.
Opportunity: The massive TAM expansion for obesity treatment, with current market pricing reflecting significant growth potential.
What Would Robert Louis Stevenson Say About Ozempic?
Authored by Ann Bauer via Brownstone Institute,
I have loved many addicts in my life.
I have been exasperated, impoverished, and terrified by them. But also amused, warmed, enraptured, elevated…That’s the thing about addicts. They contain multitudes, all drama and extremes. They’re charismatic until they’re repugnant, joyful until they’re suicidal. Everything is in vivid, dangerous color. It’s part of the ride and the reason they exert such a pull on cautious, ascetic people like me.
Some of my addicts are gone. My closest friend and “Damn Good Food” co-author, Mitch Omer, died at 61. Others have found God and turned their lives around (they’re now exciting and dramatic people of faith). I love people who are addicted to alcohol, drugs, gambling, and food. Many surf between the four.
Recently, another category of people formed: the ones injecting themselves with GLP-1s, mostly to lose weight but also to control other impulses. It’s clearly great for the handful whose life and health were being destroyed by obesity. But for the others? I’m dubious.
Ozempic and its cousins (Mounjaro, Wegovy, Zepbound, et al.) modify the pleasure centers of the brain, making everything people crave—food, sex, smoking, alcohol, shopping, gambling, cocaine—less appealing. It doesn’t address the underlying problems of addiction, such as depression or dishonesty. It just eliminates the part of the person that enjoys and revels, the colorful, joyous side.
It’s a version of the drug in Robert Louis Stevenson’s Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, that the doctor ginned up to divide himself, creating a respectable man bound by reserve and a separate murderous, pleasure-seeking monster.
From Dr. Jekyll’s own account:
Hence it came about that I concealed my pleasures; and that when I reached years of reflection, and began to look round me and take stock of my progress and position in the world, I stood already committed to a profound duplicity of life. Many a man would have even blazoned such irregularities as I was guilty of; but from the high views that I had set before me, I regarded and hid them with an almost morbid sense of shame. It was thus rather the exacting nature of my aspirations than any particular degradation in my faults, that made me what I was and, with even a deeper trench than in the majority of men, severed in me those provinces of good and ill which divide and compound man’s dual nature. In this case, I was driven to reflect deeply and inveterately on that hard law of life, which lies at the root of religion and is one of the most plentiful springs of distress. Though so profound a double-dealer, I was in no sense a hypocrite; both sides of me were in dead earnest; I was no more myself when I laid aside restraint and plunged in shame, than when I laboured, in the eye of day, at the furtherance of knowledge or the relief of sorrow and suffering. And it chanced that the direction of my scientific studies, which led wholly toward the mystic and the transcendental, re-acted and shed a strong light on this consciousness of the perennial war among my members. With every day, and from both sides of my intelligence, the moral and the intellectual, I thus drew steadily nearer to that truth, by whose partial discovery I have been doomed to such a dreadful shipwreck: that man is not truly one, but truly two.
Of course, the doctor’s desire to split off his hedonistic self will have devastating consequences. The lesson of Jekyll and Hyde is that decoupling morality from desire is unnatural. It disrupts the natural order. My question for RLS, were he still with us to answer: Do GLP-1s pose similarly catastrophic risks?
I think they may. One reason is my Uncle Joe.
Joe was a quiet, careful religious man. He and his wife, Darla, had desperately wanted children but it just never happened. They raised boxer dogs that they treated like babies. Joe worked as a photographer in North Minneapolis in this little tufted studio from the 1930s that smelled like rose cologne and dust.
Some time in the late 1970s, Joe started shaking uncontrollably. Terrible thing for a photographer. He was diagnosed with Parkinson’s and put on a whopping dose of Levodopa, which flooded his brain with dopamine. This got the tremors under control. He and Darla were hugely grateful. They needed Joe’s income and now he could go back to work.
But over the next half-decade, my uncle changed. He became furtive and untrustworthy. Around the time Darla discovered she had cancer, she also discovered that her husband had nearly bankrupted them. This tidy man had developed a rabid gambling habit—cards, horses, sports—and he was a terrible bettor. I was just a kid, but I remember my father talking about what a dumb bastard Joe was, how he lied to his wife and spent the money she needed for her treatments.
Darla died a few years later, and Joe kept right on gambling. He sold his business and used the money for trips to Las Vegas. By this time, the Levodopa was having diminishing returns and his Parkinsonian shaking was back. Joe’s doctors kept ratcheting up the dose, believing they were doing so with impunity. But the drug only made him step up his gambling. And spending. And drinking. And God knows what else.
Shortly after Joe died, penniless, news started to eke out that Levodopa was causing previously straight-laced people to do all sorts of out-of-character things. They were visiting prostitutes and buying fancy clothes, snorting blow and placing bets. Joe was part of the first wave of Parkinson’s patients that were treated with this new ‘miracle’ drug and went off the rails. He died alone, having borrowed money from everyone he knew and burned all the bridges he’d spent a lifetime building.
What does this have to do with Robert Louis Stevenson’s story about chemical medicine? Not a lot—directly. In Jekyll and Hyde, the main character sets out to create a potion that will free him from his rutting, profane, dissolute self (and vice versa). In the case of my uncle, chemists were simply trying to control the symptoms of his disease, and it had the awful, unintended consequence of turning a once-refined man into – basically – Mr. Hyde.
But Joe’s story is information about what happens when you mess with brain chemicals and try to spark or dampen certain behaviors. He wasn’t an addict they were trying to control. In fact, he was the kind of orderly person who shined his shoes and set them out every night. Levodopa MADE people like my Uncle Joe into addicts. Collaterally. And scientists missed it for years.
GLP-1 drugs center around the very same brain chemical: Dopamine. Instead of raising patients’ levels as neurologists did with Parkinson’s patients, Ozempic and the rest ‘modulate’ (which simply means adjust) Dopamine levels, suppressing them [typically] to a point where the pleasure-seeking cravings for food, alcohol, nicotine, and on and on are weak enough for people to overcome.
The Free Press ran an article recently on a little-talked-about downstream effect of GLP-1s: apathy. “They Went on Ozempic—and Gave Up on Life” by Evan Gardner reports on people who lost weight on the injectable, along with their libido, ambition, and desire to participate in the world. One woman finally had the boyfriend of her dreams, thanks (in her mind) to her slender new body, but no desire to have sex.
This is the opposite of what happened to Parkinson’s patients in the ‘70s, ‘80s and ‘90s. The danger is that doctors are oblivious to (or ignoring) what’s happening because GLP-1s are easy, people want them, and they’re having the desired effect.
But what if the sum of becoming apathetic isn’t just laziness or low sex drive? What if it leads to something more sinister, such as a lack of empathy, the need for ever-more disruptive or violent entertainment, errors in high-risk high-stakes jobs, a dearth of parental love for a child….The list of potential ills goes on and on.
I ran this theory by a friend who works in the sober community, for a 12-step program, and he told me there are some professionals working in recovery who won’t accept people on GLP-1s into their programs. “A lot of us believe it’s an addiction if you’re relying on a drug that removes the need for spiritual work,” he said.
Robert Louis Stevenson warned about this very thing back in 1886. His story is about a drug made of phosphorus and salt and “some volatile ether” that allowed the addict, the rogue and criminal, to split off and wander free.
Today, we have a drug made of “salt forms of a glucagon-like peptide-1 (GLP-1) receptor agonist,” being pushed by physicians and television campaigns and sports heroes and celebrities nationwide that allows people to silence the addict within—the self that once “laid aside restraint and plunged in shame”—stuff them in a crawl space, slam the door shut, and trap them there.
Don’t tell me that a Hyde-like creature isn’t going to get out eventually. There will be consequences.
“Prepare for a dreadful shipwreck,” I imagine Stevenson would say.
Tyler Durden
Mon, 04/06/2026 - 20:55
AI Talk Show
Four leading AI models discuss this article
"The article's central claim—that GLP-1s pose 'catastrophic risks' comparable to Jekyll and Hyde—rests on anecdote and speculation, not clinical evidence, and conflates dopamine elevation (Levodopa) with dopamine modulation (GLP-1s) as if they're identical threats."
This is opinion masquerading as analysis. The article conflates three unrelated phenomena—Levodopa's dopamine *elevation* causing impulse dyscontrol, GLP-1s' dopamine *modulation* causing apathy, and Stevenson's fiction—into a speculative moral panic. The Levodopa anecdote is real but proves the opposite: unintended neurochemical side effects *can* occur, which is why GLP-1 trials explicitly monitored for psychiatric and behavioral changes. The 'apathy' reports are anecdotal; no peer-reviewed data yet shows GLP-1s cause clinically significant empathy loss or violence. The article also ignores that obesity itself causes depression, reduced libido, and social withdrawal—baseline improvement may feel like apathy when expectations reset. Ozempic (NOVO, ELI) faces legitimate safety scrutiny, but this reads as speculative fiction, not evidence.
If GLP-1s do suppress dopamine broadly rather than selectively, and if long-term use causes persistent anhedonia or emotional blunting in non-obese users, the behavioral risks could be real and underreported because trials were short and pharma incentives favor approval.
"The market is underestimating the long-term durability of GLP-1 demand, as the physiological benefits of metabolic correction far outweigh the speculative anecdotal reports of behavioral apathy."
The article conflates clinical weight management with moral philosophy, ignoring the actual pharmacokinetic profile of GLP-1 agonists. While the author cites 'apathy' as a systemic risk, the clinical data for Novo Nordisk (NVO) and Eli Lilly (LLY) shows these drugs primarily target the mesolimbic reward system to reduce food noise, not global dopamine depletion. The market is currently pricing in massive TAM expansion for obesity, but the real risk isn't 'Jekyll and Hyde' behavioral shifts—it's the long-term impact on muscle mass (sarcopenia) and the potential for regulatory pushback on off-label use. Investors should watch for Q3/Q4 commercial insurance coverage trends, which remain the primary catalyst for sustained growth.
If GLP-1s do indeed cause widespread anhedonia, we could see a massive surge in medical malpractice litigation and a subsequent collapse in prescription volumes that current valuation multiples fail to account for.
"The key takeaway is to treat GLP-1 behavioral side effects as a watchlist issue requiring better data, not a proven “Jekyll/Hyde” risk—while the article’s mechanistic and outcome claims outpace evidence."
The article is more literary than clinical, but it flags a real pharmacovigilance question: do GLP-1s alter impulse/behavior in ways that can be harmful for some patients? That said, it leans on an analogy to levodopa-induced impulse-control disorders in Parkinson’s—an established phenomenon—while asserting GLP-1s “center around dopamine” and implying apathy could morph into empathy loss or violence without evidence. Missing context: effect sizes, incidence, baseline mental-health confounders, and whether reported “apathy” reflects reduced food-seeking/reward valuation versus neuropsychiatric toxicity. Also, the piece ignores major demonstrated benefits (weight loss, diabetes risk reduction) and selection bias from anecdotes.
The strongest counterpoint is that clinicians already monitor for psychiatric/behavioral adverse effects, and the most extreme behavioral claims (e.g., empathy loss, violence) are speculative extrapolations from sparse reporting rather than demonstrated causal links.
"Anecdotal literary analogies ignore GLP-1s' $100B+ market trajectory and robust Phase 3 safety data, posing zero near-term threat to NVO/LLY's 25-30% CAGR."
This Brownstone op-ed fear-mongers GLP-1s (Ozempic/NVO, Wegovy/NVO, Mounjaro/LLY, Zepbound/LLY) as 'Jekyll/Hyde' suppressants fostering apathy, citing Levodopa anecdotes from 1970s Parkinson's cases—a flawed parallel, as GLP-1s mimic gut hormones modulating dopamine indirectly, not flooding it like L-Dopa. Financially, it's noise: NVO's Q1 Wegovy sales +75% YoY to $4.5B, LLY's Mounjaro/Zepbound +110% to $3.9B combined; $130B TAM by 2030 amid obesity crisis. Trials like SELECT show 20% CV risk cut, <5% serious psych sides. No regulatory red flags; demand surges despite known GI effects.
If apathy claims gain traction via social media amplification or emerging studies linking GLP-1s to depression/suicide (as hinted in some post-marketing data), it could spark opioid-style lawsuits eroding $50B+ annual revenues for NVO/LLY.
"SELECT's safety profile may not generalize to the younger, off-label obesity market where behavioral side effects could manifest differently."
Grok cites SELECT's <5% serious psych sides as reassurance, but that trial enrolled high-CV-risk patients (mean age 61, prior MI/stroke), not the younger, healthier off-label cohort now driving Wegovy demand. Selection bias cuts both ways: SELECT may underrepresent behavioral toxicity in metabolically normal users. Also, 'post-marketing data hinting at depression/suicide' needs specificity—Grok flags litigation risk but doesn't cite actual FDA MedWatch signals or pharmacovigilance reports. That's the real tell: if they exist, name them. If not, we're speculating on speculation.
"Reputational damage from 'apathy' narratives will accelerate the shift to cheaper, non-branded GLP-1 alternatives, eroding the pricing power of NVO and LLY."
Claude is right to challenge the SELECT trial's relevance, but the focus on 'apathy' misses a more tangible financial risk: the commoditization of weight loss. If GLP-1s undergo a 'vibes-based' reputational shift—whether via social media-fueled apathy claims or genuine psychiatric side effects—the barrier to entry for compounding pharmacies and generic peptides drops significantly. Investors are pricing in luxury brand loyalty for NVO/LLY, but a 'black box' warning would accelerate the shift toward cheaper, unregulated alternatives, crushing margins.
"Grok’s regulatory-safety conclusion lacks specific, verifiable evidence and overlooks the need to distinguish signal from anecdotal noise."
Grok’s “no regulatory red flags” reassurance is too hand-wavy. Without naming specific FDA/EMA safety labeling changes, MedWatch signal strength, or class-wide adverse-event incidence (not just “<5% serious psych sides”), the regulatory claim isn’t falsifiable. Also, Claude correctly pressed for that. A bigger under-discussed investor risk is real-world confounding: if baseline depression/anxiety improves with weight loss, “apathy” anecdotes may be noise—until signal emerges in structured pharmacovigilance.
"No major regulatory actions on GLP-1 psych risks to date, but social amplification could trigger adolescent-specific scrutiny hitting future growth."
ChatGPT rightly calls for regulatory specifics—FDA semaglutide label notes rare post-marketing suicidal ideation (<0.1% incidence, causality unclear); EMA's July 2024 review of 36 suicide signals across 10k+ cases found no class effect. Unflagged risk: if 'apathy' anecdotes amplify via TikTok, it accelerates FDA/CMS scrutiny on adolescent off-label use, where developing brains heighten vulnerability—NVO/LLY supply for kids is nascent but growing.
Panel Verdict
No ConsensusThe panel discussed the potential behavioral side effects of GLP-1 drugs, with some panelists expressing concern about 'apathy' reports and the risk of regulatory scrutiny, while others highlighted the drugs' proven benefits and the market's pricing in of massive TAM expansion for obesity treatment.
The massive TAM expansion for obesity treatment, with current market pricing reflecting significant growth potential.
The potential for 'apathy' anecdotes to amplify via social media and accelerate FDA/CMS scrutiny on adolescent off-label use, where developing brains may heighten vulnerability.