Why one of the nation's largest auto lenders isn't worried about high vehicle prices or 'forever loans'
By Maksym Misichenko · CNBC ·
By Maksym Misichenko · CNBC ·
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The panel consensus is bearish on Capital One's (COF) auto lending portfolio, warning of structural risks masked by a stable payment-to-income ratio. Key concerns include high and rising negative equity, longer loan terms, and potential shocks from used car price mean-reversion, unemployment spikes, and EV obsolescence.
Risk: High and rising negative equity, with 26% of trade-ins and an average of $5,105, coupled with longer loan terms (up to 84 months) that backload default risk.
Opportunity: None identified
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The head of one of the nation's largest auto finance lenders isn't overly concerned about rising consumer automotive debt and inflated used car prices leading to longer loans on vehicle purchases.
His main reasoning? The percentage of income consumers are spending on their vehicles has remained relatively flat compared with 2019, before the coronavirus pandemic led to inflated pricing as demand surged but inventories stayed low.
"If I just told you, 'Car prices going up, interest rates going up, insurance prices going up,' you would say, 'You know what, consumers must be paying more as a ratio to the income,'" Capital One Auto President Sanjiv Yajnik told CNBC. "However, if you look at every quintile of salary and earnings of people, the payment-to-income ratio has remained fairly flat."
While Capital One reports median monthly car ownership payments have jumped from $390 to $525 since 2019, data provided exclusively to CNBC from its automotive unit suggest that vehicle costs have stayed relatively stable compared with income. That's because, overall, the payment-to-income ratio has remained flat at approximately 10% since 2019, according to the automotive arm of the American bank.
Capital One Auto found 80% of car purchasers who finance a vehicle are below the generally recognized payment to income threshold of 15%.
"The consumer is being cautious. They're being responsible. This is a much healthier way to do things than the alternative, because it's not a discretionary spend," said Yajnik, referring to consumers prioritizing vehicle payments for transportation, including work.
To get to that goal, however, more consumers are taking on longer loans to keep payments affordable.
The auto finance veteran's view contrasts with others in the industry who view the longer term loans as a detriment to consumers' pocketbooks.
They argue that so-called "forever loans" of six years or more have led to many buyers, particularly of new vehicles, being underwater on the equity of their cars and trucks. That means they owe more than their vehicle is worth when they decide to trade it in.
Edmunds reports roughly 26% of used vehicles purchased that involved a trade-in vehicle had negative equity this year through April. The amount of negative equity averaged $5,105, a 35% increase from 2019.
"As loan term lengths increase on average, the pace at which consumers make progress paying down their balance slows," Jessica Caldwell, head of insights for CarMax's Edmunds, wrote in a recent online post. "If consumers then trade in their vehicle too soon for any reason, they are increasingly left holding more loan debt."
Regarding financing for new vehicles during the first quarter, 90.2% of new vehicle loans involving trade-ins with negative equity carried terms of at least 72 months, and 43% extended to 84 months, according to Caldwell. The average negative equity trade-in was $7,183 during the quarter for new vehicles, according to Edmunds.
Those figures have been climbing since 2022, when inflated used vehicle values caused by a pandemic-fueled chip shortage insulated more shoppers from carrying debt into their next vehicle.
Consumers need to keep their vehicles for more time to make the long loans worth it, according to Yajnik. But that can also cause increases in maintenance costs as well as the likelihood that a vehicle needs repairs that exceed its value or has to be scrapped altogether.
"Yes, it takes longer to get your equity, but in the meantime, you get a use of the car, and you're earning money," said Yajnik, a 28-year veteran of Capital One who has led the automotive lending division since 2008.
The average listed price of a used vehicle was $25,390 in March, according to Cox's most recent data. That compares to new vehicles, which depreciate faster, at $48,667.
Cox Automotive reports if all other things are equal on a loan, financing for a $30,000 vehicle at a 9% annual percentage rate would cost $3,100 more on an 84-month term than a 48-month loan. However, there's a $264 difference in the monthly payments, which Yajnik said makes it more affordable for many consumers, especially those in lower income brackets.
"There's obviously going to be pockets that have problems, but one has to start from a different place, which is, for which reason are people buying cars, and are they doing so irrationally?" Yajnik said.
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"The normalization of 84-month loan terms masks a systemic buildup of negative equity that will trigger significant credit losses if used vehicle values normalize."
Capital One’s reliance on 'payment-to-income' ratios as a proxy for credit health is a dangerous lagging indicator that ignores the erosion of discretionary buffers. By normalizing 84-month terms, lenders are effectively financing depreciation rather than assets, creating a structural trap where consumers are perpetually underwater. While the 10% ratio looks stable, it masks the fact that households are likely cannibalizing savings to maintain these payments, leaving them zero room for shocks. If used car prices mean-revert toward historical depreciation curves, the negative equity gap—already at $5,105 on average—will explode, forcing massive write-offs for lenders like COF and Ally Financial.
If vehicle reliability continues to improve, the 'forever loan' thesis holds because the utility of the asset over an 84-month period justifies the total cost of ownership relative to public transit or ride-sharing alternatives.
"Flat PTI obscures ballooning negative equity and extended terms that heighten auto loan default risks in any economic downturn."
Capital One's (COF) auto chief touts flat 10% payment-to-income (PTI) ratio since 2019 as proof of consumer resilience, with 80% below 15% threshold, despite median payments up 35% to $525/mo and loans averaging 72+ months. But this glosses over surging negative equity—26% of used trade-ins ($5,105 avg, +35% YoY per Edmunds)—and 90% of new vehicle loans with trade-ins at 72+ months ($7,183 avg negative equity). Longer terms slow principal paydown, amplifying default risk if recession hits incomes or used prices drop 20-30% as inventories normalize. Maintenance on older kept cars adds hidden costs. COF's portfolio looks stable now, but vulnerable to second-order shocks others flag.
Flat PTI across income quintiles and consumer prioritization of transport over discretionary spend suggest disciplined behavior, with no broad delinquency spike yet per industry data.
"Flat payment-to-income ratios obscure a credit quality deterioration: negative equity is now endemic, loan terms have extended dangerously, and default risk has shifted from near-term to 48–72 months out, where macro uncertainty is highest."
Capital One's (COF) argument rests on a single metric: payment-to-income ratio staying flat at ~10%. But this masks deteriorating credit quality hiding in plain sight. Yes, 80% of borrowers stay below 15% threshold—but that's a low bar. The real risk: negative equity is now structural (26% of trade-ins, up from historical norms), and longer terms (84-month loans at 43% of new vehicle financings) mean default risk is backloaded. If unemployment spikes or used car values crater, Capital One faces a wave of underwater borrowers with minimal equity cushion. The article conflates 'affordable payments' with 'healthy lending,' which aren't the same thing.
Capital One may be right that payment-to-income stability signals rational consumer behavior, and longer terms genuinely do reduce default risk in the near term by lowering monthly burden—the real stress test comes only if macro conditions deteriorate sharply.
"The article understates the risk that longer loan tenures and rising negative equity could unleash higher delinquencies and credit losses if macro conditions deteriorate or used-car values normalize."
Capital One's auto-lending view hinges on a flat payment-to-income ratio despite higher car prices and rates, with longer terms as the workaround. That signals prudent borrowing today, but it masks tail risks: a macro shock—unemployment up, used-vehicle values normalize—could trigger underwater loans and higher delinquencies as 72–84 month terms persist. Maintenance costs and EV cycles add more ownership risk. The article relies on a single lender's data and selective metrics; funding via securitization/ABS markets and potential underwriting tightening could compress margins. The apparent resilience may be fragile in a cyclical downturn.
If unemployment stays low and auto demand remains sticky, extended loan terms may actually boost interest income and lower default rates in the near term; the risks the article glosses over—like renegotiations, refinancing, and the auto-ABS market's resilience—could sustain profitability longer than you think.
"The 'forever loan' thesis fails to account for the catastrophic intersection of negative equity and rising maintenance costs, which forces borrower default even without a macro shock."
Gemini highlights the 'forever loan' utility, but misses the impact of rising repair costs on the 'payment-to-income' ratio. Even if the loan is affordable, the total cost of ownership (TCO) is spiking as these 84-month vehicles age. When a borrower faces a $2,000 transmission repair on a car with $5,000 in negative equity, they stop paying the loan to fund the repair. This creates a hidden delinquency trigger independent of macro unemployment.
"Negative equity is elevated but mirrors 2013 peaks that lenders weathered, with COF better positioned via underwriting and reserves."
Panel overlooks historical precedent: negative equity hit 31% of loans in Q4 2013 (avg $4,879 per Experian), with auto defaults peaking at 4.5% before normalizing without catastrophe. COF's AI underwriting and $2.5B reserves (up 25% YoY) provide buffers absent then. Current 26%/$5k isn't 'explosive'—it's cyclical. True test: subprime delinquencies at 9.5% (vs 7% prime).
"Historical precedent breaks down when the asset class itself (ICE vehicles) faces technological obsolescence, not just cyclical depreciation."
Grok's historical precedent is instructive but incomplete. Q4 2013 negative equity occurred pre-pandemic, pre-EV transition, and before 84-month terms became standard. Today's structural difference: older vehicles at loan maturity face accelerating EV obsolescence risk, not just depreciation. A 2020 financed car at year 6 isn't just underwater—it's potentially stranded. Repair costs Gemini flagged compound this. Grok's 25% reserve increase looks adequate until it doesn't.
"Tail-risk in auto-lending hinges on funding and used-vehicle price dynamics (auto-ABS), not reserves alone."
Grok, I’d push back on the 'reserves + 2013 precedent' view. The risk now is not a mild cyclical downturn but tail risks from auto-ABS funding and used-vehicle price volatility, plus EV obsolescence. If used prices fall or unemployment spikes, securitization markets could reprice, leaving COF with tighter funding and higher delinquencies even as reserves lag macro shock. The real hinge is funding and price trajectories, not just reserves.
The panel consensus is bearish on Capital One's (COF) auto lending portfolio, warning of structural risks masked by a stable payment-to-income ratio. Key concerns include high and rising negative equity, longer loan terms, and potential shocks from used car price mean-reversion, unemployment spikes, and EV obsolescence.
None identified
High and rising negative equity, with 26% of trade-ins and an average of $5,105, coupled with longer loan terms (up to 84 months) that backload default risk.