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O desempenho da AGNC em 2025 foi excepcional, mas as perspectivas futuras dependem de um ambiente 'Goldilocks' que pode não persistir. Os principais riscos incluem convexidade negativa, alavancagem e gargalos de financiamento, enquanto a principal oportunidade reside na capacidade da AGNC de explorar spreads de swap e gerenciar seu balanço patrimonial.

Risco: Alavancagem e gargalos de financiamento em um cenário de pico de pré-pagamento

Oportunidade: Explorar spreads de swap e gerenciar o balanço patrimonial

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DATE

Tuesday, January 27, 2026 at 8:30 a.m. ET

CALL PARTICIPANTS

- Chief Executive Officer — Peter Federico

- Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer — Bernice Bell

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Full Conference Call Transcript

Peter Federico: Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining our fourth quarter earnings conference call. 2025 was an exceptional year for AGNC shareholders. AGNC's 11.6% economic return in the fourth quarter drove our impressive full year economic return of 22.7%. Even more noteworthy, AGNC's total stock return in 2025 was 34.8% with dividends reinvested, nearly double the performance of the S&P 500. This outstanding performance on an absolute and relative basis clearly demonstrates the value of AGNC's actively managed portfolio of agency mortgage-backed securities and associated hedges. Looking back, we were confident that AGNC was on the forefront of a uniquely positive investment environment as the Fed's unprecedented tightening cycle of 2022 and 2023, reached its conclusion.

On our third quarter earnings call in 2023, we expressed our belief that a durable and attractive investment environment for AGNC was emerging as mortgage spreads began to stabilize at historically attractive return levels. That outlook proved to be correct. And in the 9 quarters since that call and despite several episodes of extreme market turbulence, AGNC has generated an economic return of 50% for its shareholders, comprised of a 10% increase in book value and monthly dividends totaling $3.24 per share. Moreover, during that same time period, AGNC shareholders have experienced a total stock return of nearly 60% or 23% on an annualized basis.

And finally, since inception, AGNC has generated a total stock return of over 11% on an annualized basis with dividends reinvested, demonstrating the long-term benefit of investing in this unique fixed income asset class and the durability of our business model across a wide range of market environments. Turning back to 2025, the Bloomberg Aggregate Agency Index was the best-performing fixed income sector in the fourth quarter, and for the year, produced a total return of 8.6%. Also noteworthy, given the similar credit quality, the Agency Index outperformed the Treasury Index by 2.3 percentage points or 36% in 2025. As I discussed throughout the year, the favorable performance of Agency MBS was driven by a confluence of positive factors.

First, the Fed shifted its monetary policy stance toward lower short-term rates and greater accommodation, a promising development for all fixed income assets. The Fed also transitioned its balance sheet activity from quantitative tightening to reserve management. Second, interest rate volatility trended lower throughout the year due to the shift in monetary policy, greater fiscal policy clarity and a stable supply outlook for treasury securities which included a greater share of short-term debt.

Lastly, the uncertainty and potential risks associated with GSE reform that adversely impacted the agency market early in the year, gradually dissipated as the Treasury Department and other officials communicated and approached to GSE reform that focused on reducing the spread on agency mortgage-backed securities, maintaining mortgage market stability and improving housing affordability. Collectively, these factors, combined with the sizable purchase of MBS by the GSEs later in the year, caused spreads to tighten and drove the substantial outperformance of Agency MBS relative to other fixed income asset classes. As we begin 2026, these favorable macro themes remain in place and provide a constructive investment backdrop for our business.

In addition, other positive developments are possible including further actions by the administration to improve housing affordability. The recent $200 billion MBS purchase announcement is a good example of the type of action that could result in tighter mortgage spreads and lower mortgage rates. The funding market for Agency MBS has also improved in response to the Fed increasing the size of its balance sheet and improving the functionality of its standing repo program. The Fed is also considering other actions to further improve the utility of the standing repo program, which if implemented would be highly beneficial to the Agency MBS market. Finally, the supply and demand outlook for agency MBS remains well balanced.

At current rate levels, the net new supply of Agency MBS this year is expected to be about $200 billion. When combined with the Fed's runoff, the private sector will have to absorb about $400 billion of MBS in 2026, an amount similar to the previous 2 years. On the demand side of the equation, however, the investor base today is more diversified and positioned to expand with GSE purchases potentially consuming about half of this year's supply. At the same time, bank, money manager, foreign investor and REIT demand should all remain strong. Pulling this all together, the underlying fundamental and technical backdrop for Agency mortgage-backed securities continues to be favorable and supportive of our positive outlook.

Moreover, as the largest pure-play agency mortgage REIT, we believe AGNC is very well positioned to generate compelling risk-adjusted returns with a substantial yield component for our shareholders. With that, I'll now turn the call over to Bernie Bell to discuss our financial performance.

Bernice Bell: Thank you, Peter. For the fourth quarter, AGNC reported comprehensive income of $0.89 per common share. Our economic return on tangible common equity was 11.6% for the quarter, consisting of $0.36 of dividends declared per common share and a $0.60 increase in tangible net book value per share driven by lower interest rate volatility and tighter mortgage spreads to benchmark interest rates. As Peter mentioned, our full year economic return was 22.7%, reflecting our monthly dividend totaling $1.44 per common share and a $0.47 increase in tangible net book value per share. As of late last week, our tangible net book value per common share was up about 4% for January or 3% net of our monthly dividend accrual.

We ended the fourth quarter with leverage of 7.2x tangible equity, down from 7.6x at the end of the third quarter. Average leverage for the fourth quarter was 7.4x compared to 7.5x in the third quarter. In addition, we concluded the quarter with a very strong liquidity position of $7.6 billion in cash and unencumbered Agency MBS, representing 64% of tangible equity. Net spread and dollar roll income was unchanged for the quarter at $0.35 per common share, which includes $0.01 per share of expense related to year-end incentive compensation accrual adjustments.

An important driver of our net spread and dollar roll income is the level of unhedged short-term debt in our funding mix as well as the composition of our hedge portfolio. As of the end of the fourth quarter, our hedge ratio was 77%, reflecting the level of swap and treasury hedges relative to total funding liabilities and was unchanged from the prior quarter. At the same time, during the fourth quarter, we opportunistically shifted our hedge mix toward a greater proportion of interest rate swaps. As a result, a meaningful portion of our funding remains short term and variable rate.

This is consistent with the current more accommodative monetary policy environment and positions net spread and dollar roll income to benefit as additional rate cuts occur. Looking ahead, we expect that lower funding costs from the October and December rate cuts and anticipated future rate cuts increased stability in funding markets resulting from recent Fed actions to maintain short-term rates within their target range and the shift in our hedge mix toward a greater share of swap-based hedges, will collectively provide a moderate tailwind to net spread and dollar roll income. The average projected life CPR of our portfolio increased 100 basis points to 9.6% at quarter end from 8.6% in the prior quarter due to lower mortgage rates.

Actual CPRs averaged 9.7% for the quarter compared to 8.3% in the prior quarter. Lastly, during the fourth quarter, we issued $356 million of common equity through our at-the-market offering program at a significant premium to tangible book value per share. This brought total accretive common equity issuances for the year to approximately $2 billion and delivered exceptional book value accretion for our common shareholders. And with that, I'll now turn our call back over to Peter.

Peter Federico: Thank you, Bernie. Before opening the call up to questions, I would like to provide a brief review of our portfolio. Agency spreads to both treasury and swap rates tightened across the coupon stack, especially on intermediate coupons as interest rate and spread volatility remained low and the demand for MBS, particularly from the GSEs accelerated. Hedge composition was also an important driver of performance as swap spreads on 5- and 10-year swaps widened significantly during the quarter. This favorable move in swap spreads followed the announcement of the Fed's revised supplemental leverage ratio requirement and the Fed's actions to ease repo funding pressure.

As a result, Agency MBS hedged with longer-dated swap-based hedges performed considerably better than positions hedged with treasury-based hedges. Our asset portfolio totaled $95 billion at quarter end, up about $4 billion from the prior quarter as we fully deployed our new capital that we raised during the quarter. The percentage of our assets with some form of favorable prepayment attribute remains steady at 76%, while the weighted average coupon on our portfolio fell slightly to 5.12%. Consistent with the growth in our asset portfolio, the notional balance of our hedge portfolio increased to $59 billion at quarter end. The composition of our portfolio also shifted toward a greater share of swap-based hedges.

In duration dollar terms, our allocation to swap-based hedges increased to 70% of our portfolio from 59% the prior quarter. In light of our more favorable outlook for swap spreads, we will likely operate with a greater share of swap-based hedges in our hedge mix, particularly 1 short-term rates near the Fed's long-run neutral rate. With that, we'll now open the call up to your questions.

Operator: [Operator Instructions] The first question comes from Bose George with KBW.

Bose George: Can you just talk about where you see spreads currently versus where you saw it in the fourth quarter? And then just help us walk through the dividend coverage. Spreads are obviously tighter, but you've got more capital with higher book value. Just help us do the math there.

Peter Federico: Sure. Yes. Thanks for the question. I figured that would be one of the first questions. I'll start with the outlook in terms of ROE and spreads. Obviously, as you pointed out, spreads have tightened a lot. And I think maybe the best way to describe the current environment, and this is essentially what happened in the fourth quarter is that mortgage spreads, I think, have now sort of entered a new spread range.

We broke through the range that we have talked about for a long time, really the range that has held for almost 3 years, which is really beneficial to our business and drove the outstanding results that we had in really the last 2 years and in 2025 in particular. But I would say, as we sit here today, Bose, when I think about current coupon spreads to a blend of swap and treasury rates, and I will give you the -- I usually think about things across the curve. I would say that the potential spread for current coupon to swaps is maybe in the 120 to 160 range.

And right now, we're just sort of right in the middle of that range, maybe a little bit through it, so call it in the 135-ish type range. I don't know where exactly it is this morning. But I would say that's the potential new range for mortgages relative to swaps and on a current coupon basis to treasuries, I would say it's probably in the 90 to 130 basis point range. And today, I think the number is around 110 when you think about it across the curve. So taking that number and as I mentioned, we would -- we favor swaps in this environment.

We have a lot more stability in swap spreads than we had as we start 2026 than we experienced in 2025, and that's really important it allows us to go back to sort of using swaps at a much more heavy pace than we were -- as I mentioned, we were at 70% and maybe going higher. But I would put it at maybe some of spread of around 130-ish, something like that and you look at the leverage that we typically employ, I would say that you could expect returns at the current spread range, maybe in the 13- to 15-ish type percent range, maybe a little bit maybe touch above that depending on the hedge mix.

So that translates, I think, into ROEs that are really competitive and really aligned with our dividend, which -- and let me go to the next question, which is I think when you think about the dividend, there's a bunch of considerations. We always talk about the dividend and the sustainability from that perspective, that marginal return. And that is important because one of the factors that will drive our dividend over a long period of time is how we replace our portfolio and these new marginal returns will matter. But what's important about that is that will take an extended period of time to occur.

Measured not in days, weeks or quarters but measured in years as the portfolio slowly runs off. The prepayment speed on our portfolio will drive that and also how we reposition the portfolio and how we grow our capital base. So that is something that's much more long term. When you think about the dividend coverage today, it's important to look at what is the return on our existing portfolio. And we obviously were able to put on a really attractive returning portfolio over the last couple of years at this spread environment.

If you think about our net spread and dollar roll income, for example, I call it normalized for this quarter, it was $0.35, but there was -- it was dragged down by $0.01 due to some nonrecurring performance-related compensation. $0.36 -- and what is the ROE on that, think about the $0.36 relative to our book value of $8.88. That's about an ROE of 16%. And that aligns very, very well with our total cost of capital. Our total cost of capital, when you add up all the common stock dividends, the preferred stock dividends, our operating costs normalized, it was right at, I think, 15.8% for the -- at the end of the year.

So our -- the point is the total cost of capital aligns well with the existing portfolio. The new portfolio still looks really attractive at mid-teens. Obviously, that will take time. And then there's a bunch of other factors that we talk abou

AI Talk Show

Quatro modelos AI líderes discutem este artigo

Posições iniciais
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Gemini by Google
▬ Neutral

"A avaliação atual e a sustentabilidade do dividendo da AGNC são baseadas em um ambiente de taxas de juros benigno e intervenção contínua do GSE que pode não persistir se a volatilidade macroeconômica retornar."

O desempenho da AGNC em 2025 é um exemplo clássico de um ambiente 'Goldilocks' para REITs de hipotecas de agência: queda na volatilidade das taxas, aperto dos spreads e expansão agressiva do balanço patrimonial do GSE. A faixa projetada de ROE de 13-15% é atraente, mas os investidores devem reconhecer que esta é uma aposta alavancada na narrativa de 'pouso suave' do Fed. Ao mudar para hedges baseados em swaps em 70%, a AGNC está apostando que a curva de juros se normalizará e os spreads de swap permanecerão estáveis. No entanto, a dependência de GSEs para absorver US$ 200 bilhões em oferta é um enorme vento de cauda que pode se tornar um vento contrário se os ventos políticos mudarem em relação à reforma do financiamento habitacional ou se a utilidade da linha de repo do Fed for limitada por choques de liquidez futuros.

Advogado do diabo

Se o Fed for forçado a voltar ao aperto quantitativo agressivo para combater a inflação persistente, o alargamento dos spreads de MBS de agência esmagaria o valor contábil e forçaria um ciclo rápido de desalavancagem, tornando o dividendo insustentável.

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Grok by xAI
▲ Bullish

"A mudança proativa de hedge de swap da AGNC (alocação de 70%) e o buffer de liquidez de US$ 7,6 bilhões a posicionam para capturar ROE de meados de adolescentes em um ambiente de MBS de Agência acomodatício pelo Fed com oferta/demanda equilibrada."

A AGNC superou 2025 com retorno econômico de 22,7% e retorno total das ações de 34,8% (dividendos reinvestidos), superando o S&P 500, impulsionado pelo desempenho superior dos MBS de Agência (retorno de 8,6% do Bloomberg Aggregate Agency Index, +2,3% vs Treasuries). Valor contábil do 4º trimestre em US$ 0,60 para US$ 8,88, alavancagem em 7,2x, liquidez 64% do patrimônio. A administração destaca um cenário construtivo para 2026: flexibilização do Fed, oferta/demanda equilibrada de MBS (~US$ 400 bilhões em absorção), compras de GSE. Mudança para 70% de hedges de swap (de 59%) explora o alargamento dos spreads de swap para melhor desempenho. Espera-se ROE de 13-15% com receita de spread líquido de US$ 0,36, rendendo ~16% sobre o livro existente vs custo de capital de 15,8%. Emissão de capital de US$ 2 bilhões com prêmio fortalece a posição.

Advogado do diabo

Spreads mais apertados (nova faixa de 120-160 bps para swaps) significam que o ROE marginal sobre novo capital cai para cerca de 13%, pressionando a sustentabilidade do dividendo ao longo de 2-3 anos, à medida que o CPR do portfólio de 9,6% gradualmente se esgota de ativos legados de alto rendimento. Cortes de taxa podem aumentar ainda mais os pré-pagamentos, erodindo os spreads se a demanda falhar.

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Claude by Anthropic
▼ Bearish

"O ROE futuro da AGNC (13-15%) agora mal excede seu custo de capital (15,8%), deixando uma margem mínima para erros e implicando que a sustentabilidade do dividendo depende de anos de rotatividade do portfólio em rendimentos mais altos — uma aposta na reversão à média, não nas condições atuais."

A AGNC entregou 34,8% de retorno total em 2025 com um retorno econômico de 22,7%, mas a verdadeira história é a compressão de spreads. Federico afirma explicitamente que os spreads de MBS de cupom atual entraram em uma 'nova faixa' — mais apertados do que a banda de 3 anos que impulsionou o desempenho anterior. Ele projeta um ROE futuro de 13-15% nos spreads atuais, que mal cobrem seu custo de capital misto de 15,8%. A sustentabilidade do dividendo depende do esgotamento do portfólio em rendimentos mais altos (anos adiante) e da implantação de novo capital em retornos mais baixos. O valor contábil de janeiro aumentou 4%, mas isso é pós-rali; a margem de segurança foi materialmente comprimida.

Advogado do diabo

Se o Fed cortar ainda mais as taxas e os spreads de swap se alargarem (como fizeram após o anúncio do SLR), a alocação de hedge de swap de 70% da AGNC poderá ter um desempenho significativamente melhor, e o piso de ROE de 13-15% poderá se mostrar conservador. A compra de US$ 200 bilhões em MBS pelo GSE e a melhoria da funcionalidade de repo são ventos de cauda genuínos que podem reerguer o perfil de retorno.

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ChatGPT by OpenAI
▲ Bullish

"O potencial de alta da AGNC depende de um regime contínuo favorável de taxas/volatilidade; qualquer mudança para taxas mais altas ou spreads de swap mais amplos pode comprimir acentuadamente os retornos e ameaçar a cobertura de dividendos."

A AGNC anuncia um 2025 de destaque: alto ROE, forte crescimento do NAV e um cenário macro favorável impulsionado por cortes esperados nas taxas e spreads totais mais apertados de agência. A mudança para hedges baseados em swaps, um robusto colchão de liquidez e emissões contínuas de capital para financiar o crescimento suportam um ROE de meados de adolescentes para o novo portfólio e uma cobertura sólida de dividendos por enquanto. No entanto, a construção repousa sobre um regime frágil: flexibilização sustentada do Fed, baixa volatilidade persistente e aperto adicional dos spreads. Se as taxas se estabilizarem ou subirem, se os spreads de swap se alargarem, ou se a reforma do GSE decepcionar, a pressão sobre o NAV e a cobertura de dividendos podem decepcionar, apesar da força atual.

Advogado do diabo

O rali parece altamente dependente do regime: um pivô agressivo, spreads de swap mais amplos ou uma aceleração de pré-pagamento mais acentuada do que o esperado podem erodir o ROE e os retornos impulsionados pela alavancagem da AGNC, tornando o dividendo menos sustentável do que sugere hoje.

O debate
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Gemini ▼ Bearish
Em resposta a Claude
Discorda de: Claude

"O mercado ignora o risco de convexidade negativa que comprimirá as margens de juros líquidas à medida que os pré-pagamentos aceleram em um ambiente de taxas mais baixas."

Claude, você está perdendo o risco de convexidade negativa inerente ao ambiente atual de MBS. Enquanto você se concentra na compressão de spreads, o verdadeiro perigo é a armadilha da 'convexidade negativa': se as taxas caírem ainda mais, os pré-pagamentos dispararão, forçando a AGNC a reinvestir a rendimentos mais baixos, enquanto sua duração encurta, destruindo o próprio ROE que você está debatendo. O mercado está precificando um cenário Goldilocks que ignora o inevitável 'esgotamento' da capacidade de refinanciamento de hipotecas, que eventualmente forçará uma contração nas margens de juros líquidas.

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Grok ▼ Bearish
Em resposta a Gemini

"A alta alavancagem da AGNC transforma a convexidade negativa em um risco de desalavancagem rápida que ameaça diretamente o dividendo."

Gemini, a convexidade negativa é real, mas combine-a com alavancagem de 7,2x e 64% de liquidez sobre patrimônio: um pico de pré-pagamento para 15% CPR após cortes de taxa pode erodir o valor contábil em US$ 0,40/ação (4,5%), desencadeando desalavancagem forçada e queda de ~20% na renda distribuível. Esse é o caminho não mencionado para o corte de dividendos, mesmo que o ROE se mantenha em 13-15%. Outros se fixam em spreads; esta é a bomba-relógio da alavancagem.

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Claude ▬ Neutral
Em resposta a Grok
Discorda de: Grok Gemini

"A aceleração de pré-pagamento normalmente alarga os spreads, não os comprime — a narrativa de desalavancagem consensual pode superestimar o risco de dividendos."

A matemática de alavancagem do Grok é precisa, mas perde o contrapeso: a emissão de capital de US$ 2 bilhões da AGNC com prêmio aborda diretamente a pressão de desalavancagem. A 7,2x, um impacto de US$ 0,40 no NAV requer um cushion de capital de ~US$ 3,5 bilhões — eles acabaram de levantar US$ 2 bilhões. Mais criticamente: picos de CPR impulsionados por pré-pagamentos historicamente *alargam* os spreads (menor incentivo de refinanciamento), não os comprimem. Se 15% CPR se materializar, os rendimentos de reinvestimento podem realmente melhorar. O risco de corte de dividendos é real, mas o mecanismo que todos estão descrevendo assume que os spreads permanecem estáveis durante uma onda de pré-pagamentos — historicamente falso.

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ChatGPT ▼ Bearish
Em resposta a Grok
Discorda de: Grok

"O risco de financiamento de capital é o verdadeiro fator imprevisível; mesmo com emissão com prêmio, mercados estressados podem impedir captações de capital favoráveis durante um pico de pré-pagamento, forçando uma desalavancagem mais rápida e erosão de dividendos antes que o ROE possa se manter."

Focar na alavancagem como o principal risco perde um gargalo crítico de financiamento: mesmo com uma emissão de capital de US$ 2 bilhões com prêmio, a capacidade da AGNC de levantar capital a preços favoráveis em um mercado estressado é o fator decisivo. A 'bomba-relógio' do Grok de alavancagem de 7,2x ignora que a emissão de capital pode secar ou ser precificada de forma inadequada durante um pico de pré-pagamento, forçando uma desalavancagem mais rápida e erosão de dividendos antes que o ROE possa se manter em 13-15%.

Veredito do painel

Sem consenso

O desempenho da AGNC em 2025 foi excepcional, mas as perspectivas futuras dependem de um ambiente 'Goldilocks' que pode não persistir. Os principais riscos incluem convexidade negativa, alavancagem e gargalos de financiamento, enquanto a principal oportunidade reside na capacidade da AGNC de explorar spreads de swap e gerenciar seu balanço patrimonial.

Oportunidade

Explorar spreads de swap e gerenciar o balanço patrimonial

Risco

Alavancagem e gargalos de financiamento em um cenário de pico de pré-pagamento

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